Does eating his flesh and drinking his blood mean to “believe” in Jesus? The eating and drinking are symbolic… and the disciples left due to a misunderstanding?
If it’s symbolic and it only means to believe, why did the disciples leave Jesus and return to their former way of life and no longer accompany him? John 6:66
Jesus “already” taught the disciples the requirement to believe
The definition of a disciple is a believer and follower of Jesus.
Before the discourse took place, Jesus already taught the disciples the “requirement” to obtain eternal life, which is to “believe” in him. They did not leave him then. John 3:15,16,18,36: 5:24.
Verse 66 shows that the disciples were believing in Jesus prior to the discourse. They gave up their “way of life” to follow him, but after the discourse many returned back to their former ways of living. To give up your own “way of living” to follow another person shows major commitment and belief in that person you are following.
Some disciples had accompanied and followed the Lord for over two years. Imagine you giving up your life to “literally” follow another person for over two years! They believed!
Our “all knowing God” misled people about eternal life?
耶稣指的是永生 13次 在《生命之粮》的论述中,比新约中的任何其他章节都多。
Why would the greatest teacher ever to walk the earth allow his very own disciples to leave him based on a misunderstanding about eternal life?
Knowing the importance of eternal life, which is the reason he came down from heaven, would Jesus not know that his words would create this misunderstanding?
No correction from Jesus here
They questioned Jesus. How can this man give us his flesh to eat (52)? Instead of correcting a misunderstanding, Jesus gave an ultimatum:
阿门,阿门,我告诉你们,你们若不吃人子的肉,不喝人子的血,就没有生命在你们里面了。53
Jesus vividly misled people?
Since God is all knowing (omniscient), why would he provide such vivid literal imagery that would mislead people?:
凡吃我肉喝我血的人有永生,我在末日要叫他复活。因为我的肉是真食物,我的血是真饮料。凡吃我肉喝我血的,就常在我里面,我也常在他里面。正如永生的父派我来,我因父而有生命一样,吃我的人也因我而有生命。这就是从天上降下来的粮。不像你们的祖先,吃了还会死,凡吃这粮的,必永远活着。54-58
No correction from Jesus there
They questioned Jesus again. This saying is hard; who can accept it (60)? Instead of correcting a misunderstanding again, Jesus says, “does this shock you?” 61
He then allows the disciples to leave and asks if the apostles are going to leave too? 66,67
To say the disciples left Jesus because of a misunderstanding, is to say that our omniscient God knowingly misled people about a teaching on eternal life, that he preached using his very own words.
如果他们相信,耶稣 "不会 "拒绝或失去他们
God is “all knowing;” omniscient. Jesus knew that many disciples would leave him that day. So, before the new teachings, Jesus explained to the “crowd” of non-believers that he would not reject or lose anyone that comes to him unless they were not granted by his Father’s will. 37-39.
然后,耶稣在第40节解释了天父的意愿。
因为这是我父的意思,就是 每个人 谁 看到 的 儿子 和 "相信 "他 可能有 永恒的生命我将在最后一天使他复活。
If Jesus were to reject or lose a disciple to something other than “lack of faith” in him, he would not have obeyed the Father’s will.
Some say John 6:63 confirms that Jesus was speaking symbolically. Does this verse confirm that Jesus in fact was speaking symbolically?
第 63 节 给人生命的是灵,而 "肉体 "是没有用的。我对你们所说的话,就是灵,就是生命。
他刚才说的话是什么?耶稣曾多次说过:吃我的肉(7),喝我的血(3),就能获得永生。
"无济于事 "是什么意思?它的意思是 "没有帮助或好处"。
耶稣说 "我的 "肉体没有用吗?不,他说的是 "肉体 "没有用。
新约》中多次使用 "肉体 "一词来描述与上帝分离的人性的恩典。
耶稣的肉体没有用吗? 不!
主是完美和无罪的。他的肉身圣洁纯净。他的肉体和灵魂从死里复活。 他在十字架上的肉体没有任何帮助或好处吗? 耶稣指的是 "我们 "有罪的肉体,它毫无用处。 是你的灵给了你生命,你的肉体没有任何帮助或益处。耶稣喂养我们的灵,而灵给予我们生命。
肉体
许多门徒都有 "肉体 "的自然信仰。你需要亲眼看到才能相信。你对上帝的信仰无法超越你所能理解的范围。你的信仰是属肉体的,是属这个世界的,而不是属灵的,只有上帝才能看见和喂养。这种信仰是软弱的,缺乏对上帝的信任。
"肉体是没有用的" 63
精神
超自然的信仰是由耶稣喂养的精神信仰,是指超越科学理解和自然规律的信仰;是类似于耶稣超自然降生和使饼和鱼增多的奇迹信仰。对耶稣有 "完全 "的信心和信任,要求你对上帝的信仰超越你所能理解的范围。
"我对你们所说的话就是精神和生命。" 63
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